League of Legends Patch 8.4 Tier List for Climbing Solo Queue

League of Legends Patch 8.4 Tier List for Climbing Solo Queue

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Welcome to the Mobalytics Predictive Tier List for League of Legends for Patch 8.4!

This list was curated in collaboration with our analyst, Hewitt “prohibit” Benson, our Challenger Coach, Adam “Morïarty” Isles, and our newest team member, Kellen “Exil” Pontius. Unlike most tier lists, we publish ours before, or as a patch goes live, according to the predictions of our in-house experts.

Here are the Patch 8.4 notes for reference.

If you have any questions about our choices or process, ask us on Discord! You can also read our tier list en Español here.

The Format and Methodology

One quick note is that our difficulty rating has been slightly reworked after much feedback. Previously, difficulty ratings were solely based on champion mechanical cap or ceiling. This is why cases like Lux and Aurelion Sol were in the same boat in terms of our old difficulty. Aurelion Sol involves more game knowledge and understanding and is by definition a hard champion, but Lux is also a champion with 4 skill shots, so we took that into consideration.

We appreciate your feedback, and we have now changed it from focusing on mechanical difficulty to “Learning Curve”. This will be much more designed around the philosophy of how hard a champion is to play assuming you are brand new to them, or the role itself. Just remember that difficulty and skill are always subjective!

A quick disclaimer: If a champion isn’t on our Tier List, it doesn’t necessarily mean that you can’t climb with them. You’ll just have to put in more effort to get similar results as our Optimal, Great, and Good choices for climbing. 

Shaking things up a bit!

  • UPDATES as of 2/28:
    • Top
      • Akali removed
      • Jayce A to B
      • Riven A to B
      • Swain removed
    • Jungle
      • Evelynn B to A
      • Kha’zix S to A
      • Kayn A to B
      • Skarner S to A
      • Volibear added to A
    • Mid
      • Ahri added to A
      • Aurelion Sol B to A
      • Azir added to B
      • Katarina S to A
      • Leblanc A to B
      • Malzahar removed
      • Orianna A to B
      • Syndra removed
      • Taliyah A to B
      • Talon added to B
      • Vel’koz B to A
      • Xerath added to B
      • Zilean A to S
      •  Zoe removed
    • ADC
      • Caitlyn added to A
      • Twitch S to A
    • Support
      • Braum A to B
      • Nami A to S
      • Shen removed
      • Sona B to A
      • Soraka B to S
      • Tahm Kench to B
      • Taric S to A
      • Thresh A to B
      • Zilean to A

tier list 8.4 updated

Key commentary

Rising stock

Xayah

  • Xayah is incredibly well-rounded, having a solid early, mid, and late game. Her ability to fend for herself was enough to earn her a spot at Great for us in the past, but with the resurgence of aggressive assassins and bruisers, the meta is entering an Optimal state for her.

Sion

  • Sion is an Optimal Top laner who also TOPS the win rate charts for Korean solo queue. He has some awesome lane poke with his E and a ton of CC. Pick him up for some free-lo.

Zac

  • The blob man can be a nightmare to play against. His ability to have a straightforward and consistent game plan just gives him an edge over other champs. His options are nearly endless: responding to mid lane ganks with a countergank from Raptors or wolves, ganking from fog of war without the help of the blast cone, and his ability to transition all of this into a reliable late game tank make him a desirable pick for your champ pool. Btw, if you’re having a tough time against him, check out our Counterplay video on him.

Katarina

  • Manaless AP Mids are getting even more aggression options this patch. Traditional mana mages also gain options but their power is delayed in the early game due to the cost increase to Lost Chapter. Champs like Katarina who were strong before should have an even easier time snowballing and closing out games with the help of the new Baron Buff.

Lulu

  • Tanky Supports have had a sizable chunk of their survivability removed with the Targon’s nerf this patch. We still expect them to be strong but Enchanters like Lulu will have the edge and will be the most Optimal to carry games, especially when supporting Twitch or Tristana.

Aaxtrox

  • Aatrox is a Great dueling Top laner, and with shorter games, his high impact skirmish play style in the early/mid game will be even better than before. His win rate is very solid right now so he’s gaining traction as a pick.

Darius

  • Darius’s buffs have him rising to Great in our minds. He’s a solid pick who can smash tanks, so if you’re having trouble against them consider adding him to your champ pool for the near future.

Rek’Sai

  • Rek’Sai has been diving under the radar lately but is performing surprisingly well. With the coming patch removing Tracker’s and nerfing blast cones, Junglerrs that are able to gank effectively without the need of early cones will be rising in stock. She also benefits from the lack of early Stopwatches that had negated her ultimate’s execute, and from the faster game speeds due to increased neutral objective power.

Jinx

  • Jinx is creeping up in win rate and popularity in both solo queue and pro play. If you can transition well out of lane, she can snowball hard. She is a Great hyper carry, she is very EXCITING.

Zed

  • Zed is finally leaving the sidelines and reentering the fray. The changes to the Inspiration tree will give him a more reliable window to snowball again. The buff to the CD on his rank 3 ultimate also allows him to make plays more often later in the game, giving him more use in teamfights.

Ryze

  • Ryze’s builds got better with this AP item rework, specifically, Archangel’s now having CDR. This means he can get the items he really wants without having to think about getting Morellonnomicon for CDR. His solo queue rate has always been low even when he was a viable champion, but we think this really makes him Great again.

Syndra

  • Like Zed, Syndra will benefit from the Inspiration tree changes since she was shut out by Stopwatch. Combined with the new AP item changes, she’ll have more snowball potential and increased adaptability.

LeBlanc

  • Leblanc and other assassins got much better this patch now that games will most likely not be as long. In general, champs that thrive before 30 minutes (like Leblanc) will be making a comeback.Spellbinder might also be really good for her so try it out.

On the decline

GP

  • GP will definitely feel the impact of his direct nerfs, however, he will still be Great just not Optimal. Afterall, it’s hard to go straight from busted to unviable.

Aurelion Sol

  • Sol was a god due to his strong synerrgies with runes and items. However, with the new patch, he’s losing GLP which provided him with tankiness and playmaking ability. The new GLP doesn’t work as well for him since it doesn’t give health so we’ll probably see him make a shift to RoA. We’re not quite sure where he’ll fall in the coming weeks but it’s safe to say that his ability to solo carrry games will decrease. Regarrdless of the changes, he’ll still be formidable in the early game with roams so we expect him to still perform well in the right hands.

Taliyah/Twisted Fate

  • We’re afraid that with Stopwatch removed, Taliyah and TF will be abused by their worst matchups – assassins. We’re moving them down to A-tier for now but may have to move them back depending on how the meta shakes out.

Zoe

  • Zoe’s nerfs have us expecting her to be off of our list completely. Riot will likely buff her back up in the future, but her time on the pedestal has ended – expect her to feel much weaker than before.

Special mentions

Swain

  • A big problem holding Swain back in the early game was the difficulty of getting the burst damage activation of his ultimate – his buffs help him here immensely. Swain’s significant mana cost reduction on his W will also give him an easier time in lane so he can purchase RoA in a more timely fashion.

Anivia

  • The new AP item changes make Anivia’s itemization much smoother. Seraph’s now gives a more reliable build path and a powerspike with more CDR. Liandry’s increases her late game teamfight damage output and she now has more item options if she wants to opt for different effects with Luden’s and GLP. Now, the ice bird can get all the stats that a mage wants for her full build and has many more adaptation paths.

As always, we welcome all discussion and feedback. If you have any questions about picks that we didn’t expand on or would like to let us know how you feel about Patch 8.4 and our predictions in general, join us in our Discord!

  • Fðxÿ

    Hey there,

    First thanks for providing such good data as always 🙂

    I just think you forget about poke champ like Ahri on the midlane especially with the new Luden that give 20% of cdr and a massive early burst ;).

    Sure its more part of her assassins kit than the poke one but as an Ahri main, i essentially play her with the poke mastery (Sorcery + Domination tree) and i think she is more really reliable now with all that update stuff on this patch.

    Let me know what you think about her.
    Fðxÿ.

    • Adam Isles

      Ahri is much better due to the new item changes but her lack of play at the higher end is because her laning is extremely weak in a meta that snowballs very hard which comes into play before she can get 1-2 items. Regardless she seems like a potential B tier champion.

  • Clément Baune

    I agree with all the list… but what runes do you recomand on Sion (sorcery or resolve) and for Singed (resolve or inspiration) ?
    Thank you 😉

    • Adam Isles

      Sorcery for sion with comet is rly strong for lane. Singed resolve with aftershock if you like being tanky, inspiration with unsealed starting with ignite if you like being aggresive with ap builds.

    • Hewitt Benson

      Most Sion players go with Sorcery [Comet] + Resolve. Make sure you take Manaflow Band and Scorch then the rest is up to you.

      There’s a lot of variety but Singed players are more focused on an Resolve [Aftershock] + Sorcery. Grab Boneplating + Unflincthing + Ultimate Hat + Celerity.

  • cezar

    Whoever put the difficulty on the champions is really dumb since he deny the real difficulty that the game tell us. Fiora is a hard champion not medium you need game knowledge to use W and mechanics to use that passive , and riven is not intensive like wtf you only need to learn to use the Q good riven is a medium champion and about darius jax aatrox etc they are medium since they have some AA cancel mechanics next time when you do a tier list put the real difficulty , the difficulty from the game . PEACE

    • Paul

      riven has the most intense mechanics in the game due to her endless amount of animation cancel combos. sure fiora isnt easy and has a lot of stuff to learn, too but riven is on a totally different level.

    • Hewitt Benson

      Our list talks more about the Learning Curve instead of the Skill Cap of the champion.

      Things like Darius / Jax / Aatrox have AA mechanics but aren’t required of you if you’re picking up the champion for the first time. All three are relatively straightforward and easy champions to pick up and play immediately

      Champions like Riven require more time investment to start seeing success with. I agree with you that Fiora could be put as a Hard learning curve instead of Average because of the knowledge you need of multiple Champions in the game and their habits just to use your W correctly as well as forcing players to be good with movement+autoing just to proc the majority of their damage.

      We appreciate the feedback and will definitely look into whether we should be adjusting Fiora’s Learning Curve on our next update.

    • Hunter

      riven has a good hundred or so combos available at her disposal and just spamming 3 q’s means you lack dmg from your passive. before you become a hater put in more time with the champions you judge dude. its harder to master riven than it is to master Darius, jax, or aatrox but honestly flora should be labeled a hard champ….

  • Ouno Ren

    yo why reksai have 2 entires

    • Agilio

      Fixed!

  • Allen Wang

    Where is Gnar?

  • Heinz

    Where does Corki place? Do the new AP items place him below B?

  • Hunter

    deciding to get serious about ranked and stop just playing whatever. I know the basics of all the champs I play but I want to focus on mastering a few so I can climb ranked. what would be a good amount of champions to for my primary, secondary, and off roles

    • David Kossmann

      Not too many. Its almost always better to narrow your Champion pool down, but increase the quality of your play on these few. I´d say no more than three in your main role, and one or two offrole champs youre comfortable on. If you get autofilled just dodge